vrijdag 4 januari 2013

Aantal christenen in Israël neemt licht toe

 
Alles is relatief: het aantal joden en vooral het het aantal moslims groeit sterker. Het opvallende is eerder dat Israel waarschijnlijk het enige land in het Midden-Oosten is waar het aantal christenen toeneemt. In de Palestijnse gebieden en de Arabische buurlanden neemt hun aantal al jaren af.
 
Wereldwijd is het aantal Joden sinds de Holocaust maar licht gestegen, tot naar schatting 13,5 of 14,5 miljoen. Iets minder dan de helft daarvan woont tegenwoordig in Israel.
 
Wouter
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„Aantal christenen in Israël neemt toe"

http://www.refdag.nl/kerkplein/kerknieuws/aantal_christenen_in_israel_neemt_toe_1_703556

02-01-2013 11:14 | Kerkredactie 

 

JERUZALEM – Het aantal christenen in Israël is de afgelopen jaren licht toegenomen en bedraagt nu ongeveer 158.000. Dat meldde het Israëlische Centrale Bureau voor de Statistiek (CBS) maandag. 

 

Uit tellingen van de overheids­instantie blijkt dat de meeste christenen in het Joodse land, zo'n 80 procent, van Arabische komaf zijn. Van de overige 20 procent vormen emigranten uit de voormalige Sovjet-Unie de grootste groep. 

 

Volgens de Israëlische statistische dienst kent de stad Nazareth de grootste christelijke gemeenschap in Israël. Hier wonen 22.400 christenen. Andere plaatsen met relatief veel christelijke inwoners zijn Haifa (14.400), Jeruzalem (11.700) en Shfaram (9400). 

 

Het Israëlische CBS stelt dat christenen in Israël ten opzichte van Joden en moslims bovengemiddeld vaak het voortgezet onderwijs afronden. Het percentage ligt op 64, tegen 59 procent van de Joden en 48 procent van de moslims. Opvallend is ook dat 10,2 procent van de christelijke Arabieren een medische studie volgt, tegen 4,6 procent gemiddeld. 

 

Hoewel het aantal christenen in Israël toeneemt, is er geen sprake van een sterke groei, aldus het Israëlische CBS. Jaarlijks groeit de groep christenen met 1,3 procent. Het aantal Joden daarentegen groeit jaarlijks met 1,8 procent. Vorig jaar lag het totaal aantal Joodse inwoners van Israël voor het eerst in de geschiedenis van het land boven de 6 miljoen. Van de 8 miljoen inwoners van het land is daarnaast 1,6 miljoen moslim, 21 procent van het totaal. Deze bevolkingsgroep groeit jaarlijks met 2,5 procent. 

 

Van de drie groepen zijn christenen gemiddeld het oudst, aldus het CBS in Jeruzalem. Het aantal christenen dat jonger is dan 20 jaar bedraagt 30,1 procent, tegen 33,5 procent van de Joden en maar liefst 48,7 procent van de moslims. 

 

Uit de statistieken blijkt dat christenen in Israël minder makkelijk aan werk komen dan Joden. Slechts 54 procent van de groep heeft werk, tegen bijna driekwart van de normale beroepsbevolking. Christelijke Arabieren hebben het nog moeilijker: slechts 48 procent van deze groep heeft een baan. 

 

Dat het aantal Joden in Israël vorig jaar voor het eerst meer dan 6 miljoen bedroeg, is opmerkelijk, stelt Dina Porat, chef-historicus van het herinneringscentrum Yad Vashem. Het aantal is gelijk aan de hoeveelheid Joden die tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog door de nazi's werd omgebracht. Heel bijzonder vindt ze die constatering overigens niet. „Wereldwijd waren er voor de Holocaust 18 miljoen Joden. Nadien waren het er iets meer dan 13 miljoen. Dat aantal is nog nauwelijks veranderd. Wel bijzonder is dat het aantal Joden in Israël nu bijna de helft is van alle Joden ter wereld."

 

 

Peiling: meerderheid Israeli's willen tweestatenoplossing

 
Het zou interessant zijn om deze opiniepeiling met eerdere peilingen te vergelijken, maar dan moeten de vragen wel hetzelfde geformuleerd zijn.
Bijv. 62% van de Israeli's willen volgens deze peiling een tweestatenoplossing. In een peiling uit 2009 zei 78% bereid te zijn een tweestatenoplossing te accepteren, maar door de andere manier van vragen kan men zeker niet zonder meer beweren dat de steun hiervoor is afgenomen.

Responding to the question "Which scenario would you prefer in order for the state of Israel to maintain its democratic and Jewish character in twenty years time?" 22% said they believe the status quo will continue (without annexing the territories) whilst 13% believe Israel will annex the territories without giving Palestinians full civil rights, and a minority of 7% predict annexing what they see as Judea and Samaria with full civil rights for citizens. The remaining 58%, as stated, predict two states living side by side with fixed borders.

 According to the poll, a majority of 62% of the Israeli public support the principle of "two states for two peoples," whilst a large majority (78%) are concerned about the possibility that Israel will become a bi-national state. 

 
Wouter

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The Jerusalem Post  

Poll: Majority of Israelis prefer two state solution

By GABRIELLA WEINIGER

12/18/2012 11:55

Smith Research poll shows majority of Israelis fear a bi-national state; youth hold more right-wing positions.

 

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=296405 

 

 A clear majority of Israelis believe that the establishment of a demilitarized Palestinian state is Israel's best chance to remain a Jewish and democratic state in twenty years time, a Smith Research poll showed on Monday. 

 

 The survey, commissioned by Blue and White Future, was conducted among 500 respondents from a representative sample of the adult Jewish population in Israel.

 According to the survey, 58% of Israelis would prefer to see Israel remain as a Jewish, democratic state through fixed state borders along the route of the West Bank security barrier, seeing Israel preserve its character alongside a demilitarized Palestinian state. 

 

 Responding to the question "Which scenario would you prefer in order for the state of Israel to maintain its democratic and Jewish character in twenty years time?" 22% said they believe the status quo will continue (without annexing the territories) whilst 13% believe Israel will annex the territories without giving Palestinians full civil rights, and a minority of 7% predict annexing what they see as Judea and Samaria with full civil rights for citizens. The remaining 58%, as stated, predict two states living side by side with fixed borders. 

 

 According to the poll, a majority of 62% of the Israeli public support the principle of "two states for two peoples," whilst a large majority (78%) are concerned about the possibility that Israel will become a bi-national state. 

 

 The survey shows that younger people have more right-wing positions than adults, with 69% of respondents aged fifty and above supporting the principle of "two states for two peoples" compared to 63% among those aged 30-49 and 42% of those aged 18-29. 

 

 Further, 25% of those aged 18-29 supported a scenario involving the annexation of the territories without giving full rights to the Palestinians in order to keep Israel a Jewish and democratic state, compared with 16% of those aged 30-49 and 7% aged fifty and above. 

 

 The Co-Chairman of Blue and White Future, Gilad Sher commented on the findings, saying: "The public is beginning to internalize the idea that a Jewish, democratic Israel needs to be separated from the Palestinians, with or without a [peace] agreement." 

 He added that it is the responsibility of the government to push the two state solution forward in the interest of Israel's national security. 

 

 In a related research study by the Israel Democracy Institute, 58% of Israelis do not believe that a two-state solution will end the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians.  

 The results were revealed during a panel discussion at the Sapir College in Sderot on Tuesday titled "Agreement for Peace" which engaged public opinion about the conflict and premises for its resolution.

 Prof. Tamar Hermann presented a study carried out by the Israel Democracy Institute which dealt with the question: "What is the position of the Jewish public in Israel towards peace with the Palestinians?"

 The research showed that peace with the Palestinians in 2012 is not one of the top priorities for citizens of Israel. Further, it showed the social justice protests of 2011 had "almost no effect" on the rate of achieving peace with the Palestinians. 

 

 According to the study, the importance of peace and security in 2012 is one of the lowest measured priorities for the Israeli public. It's index, according to the study, is 14.7, compared to 56.8 in 1969.

 MK Aryeh Eldad commented on the findings, saying the public is "not ready to buy the faulty product we call Oslo," adding that partition cannot solve the conflict which is centered around far more than just territory.

 

 

Israel en de Arabieren van Oost Jeruzalem die willen integreren


Ook weer zoiets dat we in onze media nooit lezen, waar de indruk wordt gewekt dat alle Arabieren in Oost Jeruzalem zwaar worden onderdrukt en ieder moment om niks uit hun huizen kunnen worden gegooid door Israel. De bron is niet 'verdacht': Haaretz. 
 
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The Arabs of "East Jerusalem" who want to integrate with Israel

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.nl/2012/12/the-arabs-of-east-jerusalem-who-want-to.html  

 

Excerpts from a lengthy report in Ha'aretz: 

 

A year ago, for the first time, the Jerusalem Municipality and the Israel postal service established a post office in the village of Isawiyah, which lies below Mount Scopus, within the municipal boundaries. Along with the opening of the new branch − part of a plan to improve postal services in East Jerusalem − the village streets were given names and the houses received numbers. These developments followed a petition to the High Court of Justice, submitted by residents with the aid of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel. But the municipality could not find a site for the post office, since most of the buildings in the village were illegal structures, so their future was thus in question.

Finally, a site for the post office was improvised between the support pillars of the neighborhood sports center.

However, on the night before the scheduled festive dedication of the new branch, which the mayor was to attend, the site was torched and slogans against normalization and collaboration with the municipality were scrawled on the walls.

"In the morning I get an urgent call from the residents," Tsachar says. "They say: 'Don't ask − people tried to burn down the place.' When I got there I found 20-30 people milling around and cursing: 'Look what the sons-of-bitches did.' I told them it was not a problem, because the structure was made of iron. 'It's just scorched a little. We can clean it up and go ahead with the ceremony,' I told them. They organized and cleaned it up, and to this day the post office is operating just fine."

Barkat showed up that day as scheduled to dedicate the site. His convoy was subjected to some stone-throwing on the way, but the local mukhtar, Darwish Darwish, joined a group of villagers who positioned themselves near the car to protect the mayor and the other officials.

The story of Isawiyah's post office is a microcosm of the contrasting trends unfolding in East Jerusalem. Along with the nationalist radicalization, widespread support for Hamas and violent clashes reported in the media, far-reaching changes are taking place among the local Palestinians. These processes can be described as "Israelization," "normalization" or just plain adaptation. The Israeli authorities, with the Jerusalem Municipality at the forefront, are encouraging and in some cases fomenting this process, and displaying surprising bureaucratic flexibility along the way.

Examples of this trend are legion. They include: increasing numbers of applications for an Israeli ID card; more high-school students taking the Israeli matriculation exams; greater numbers enrolling in Israeli academic institutions; a decline in the birthrate; more requests for building permits; a rising number of East Jerusalem youth volunteering for national service; a higher level of satisfaction according to polls of residents; a revolution in the approach to health services; a survey showing that in a final settlement more East Jerusalem Palestinians would prefer to remain under Israeli rule, and so on.

But dry statistics tell only a small part of the story; other elements are not quantifiable. For example, there is the pronounced presence of Palestinians in the center of West Jerusalem, in malls, on the light-rail train and in the open shopping area in Mamilla, adjacent to the Old City's Jaffa Gate. These people are not street cleaners or dishwashers, but consumers and salespeople. Another phenomenon is the growing cooperation between merchants in the Old City and the municipality.

Everyone involved in developments in East Jerusalem agrees that a tectonic shift is occurring, the likes of which has not been known since the city came under Israeli rule in 1967. Opinion is divided about the source of the change. Some believe it sprang from below, propelled by the Palestinians' feelings of despair and their belief that an independent state is not likely to come into being. Others think it is due to a revised approach to the eastern part of the city by Israeli authorities, spearheaded by the municipality. Everyone mentions the separation barrier, which abruptly cut off Jerusalem from its natural hinterland − the cities and villages of the West Bank − as a factor that compelled the Palestinians in Al Quds
("the holy sanctuary") to look westward, toward the Jews.

The huge light-rail project, which cuts across the city and greatly facilitates access from the eastern neighborhoods to the city center, is also contributing to the transformation. Most of these changes are occurring below the radar of the Israeli public, but their consequences could be dramatic, particularly with regard to the possibility of dividing Jerusalem − and the country. It is very possible that Jerusalem has already chosen the binational solution.

1. Education

Three months after Israel captured East Jerusalem in the Six-Day War, the new school year began. The government, which by then had already annexed the eastern part of the city, sought to implement the Israeli curriculum in its public schools. However, the teachers, parents and principals adamantly refused. They launched a strike that became the symbol of the struggle by the Arabs of East Jerusalem against Israeli attempts to normalize the occupation. The strike persisted for two full years, until Israel finally capitulated and agreed to allow the Arab schools in Jerusalem to continue teaching according to the Jordanian curriculum. In time, that was superseded by the curriculum of the Palestinian Authority.

The Palestinians view that victory as a milestone in their resistance to Israel's annexationist thrust. However, the triumph has begun to erode of late. Increasing numbers of parents now want their children to obtain an Israeli matriculation certificate, and more and more high-school graduates are attending special colleges that prepare them to enter the Israeli academic world. At present, there are three schools in East Jerusalem geared toward Israeli matriculation, while in others special programs are being launched with the same aim.

A school in Sur Baher, for example, initiated a track for Israeli matriculation last year. The school expected about 15 students to register, but 100 signed up − and the number is likely to grow in the years ahead.

2. Housing and water

There are hardly any water meters in East Jerusalem, because most of the homes were built without a permit, and it is prohibited to supply water or install a meter in an illegal structure. About two years ago, again after an appeal by ACRI, the municipal water corporation, Hagihon, came up with a creative legal solution. Instead of calling it a "water meter," it's now called a "control device."

The change of name made it possible to circumvent the law and install water meters and a water supply system in thousands of homes − and to start charging for the service. About 10,000 of the devices have been installed in the past two years. Hagihon has also receivedhundreds of requests from families that want to disconnect from the Palestinian water network, which still supplies water to some of the northern sections of East Jerusalem, and tap into the Israeli grid. The reason: The water supply by the Palestinian company is sometimes erratic.

"We received so many requests from residents to be connected to the Israeli system," Tsachar, the mayor's adviser, says. "Let's say I am an incorrigible Palestinian nationalist, but I also want to shower. What can I do? In that case, [asking to be supplied with] Israeli water is legitimate and pragmatic, and it will also be available all the time. I can fly a Palestinian flag next to the water container on the roof, but I would rather get the water on a regular basis.Now think about the 'tower and stockade' settlements [of the 1930s and 1940s]. Do you think they would have said, 'We will not build a tower but will hook up to the Jordanian network, because it's more practical'? Obviously not. So there is a process underway here. It's something that cannot be ignored."

The matter of issuing building permits provides another example of the authorities' administrative flexibility in East Jerusalem. The main problem is that most residents cannot get a building permit because they do not have documents attesting to their ownership of property. To solve this problem, the municipality devised the so-called "Barkat procedure."

"The problem is that if you don't have confirmation of land ownership, the whole judicial system is stuck," says Barkat. "We therefore created a mechanism in which the mukhtars, community directorate and municipality meet, and if they reach the conclusion that there is no reason not to believe someone who says the land is his, he gets a temporary permit.

After 20 years, if no one else claims ownership, it becomes permanent. This is a city in which legal creativity is a must. I would rather be right and smart than right and dumb."

...
Among the achievements Barkat lists: investments in infrastructure and transportation, planning of neighborhoods, building of schools and more. To illustrate the altered perception on the Palestinian side, he recalls the events surrounding the city-sponsored Festival of Light in the Old City and the behavior of the merchants there. The festival, which focuses on sculptures and performances relating to the theme of light, was held for the third time this year.

"The first year we had a pilot program, only in the Jewish Quarter, and 100,000 people showed up," Barkat says. "In the second year we held it in the Jewish Quarter and the Christian Quarter, and 200,000 people came. This year it was in all the quarters and there were 300,000 visitors. At first the merchants were afraid to open up for the event, because they got threats. But then they saw that one store opened and then another, and before you knew it they were all open. Everyone made a killing and people got used to the idea."

3. Health

[I]n one area, the gap between the Jews in the west and their neighbors in the east has almost closed: public health. The past decade witnessed something of a mini-revolution in this sphere in Jerusalem. Until about 15 years ago, the Arabs of East Jerusalem were severely disadvantaged in terms of health care, mainly when it came to the health maintenance organizations. There were few clinics, physicians were unqualified, services were lacking. In the wake of the enactment of the National Health Law, which rewards the HMOs according to the number of members they have and their upgrading of various medical indices − none other than Leumit HMO, which is identified with the Revisionist Zionist movement − decided to enter the market in the eastern city. A major draw was the fact that the East Jerusalem population is young.

Around the same time, whether by chance or not, the Leumit logo also underwent a transformation: The long-time Star of David morphed into a flower. Within a few years, unbridled competition broke out between HMOs in the eastern city, which are run by local concessionaires − for the most part physicians, but in some cases businessmen.

The competition and privatization generated protests by organizations such as Physicians for Human Rights and ACRI. Their concern was that there was substandard supervision by the HMOs and a preference for making a profit instead of improving medical care. In the end, the process brought about a situation in which almost every neighborhood now has a number of clinics that boast advanced equipment. Following a number of cases in which ambulance drivers refused to enter Arab neighborhoods, some of the clinics now have their own forward ER units. In some cases the residents get free transportation to the clinics, free subscriptions to health clubs or free dental care, to ensure that they don't switch to a rival HMO. ....

Prof. Yosef Frost, director of the Jerusalem district of Clalit, describes the health developments in East Jerusalem over the past few years as an international record.

"Take the quality indices, which are objective and universal, and examine the quality of medical service," he says. "Four years ago, the indices were extremely low, whereas now they are almost equal to the Israeli national average. Some of the clinics in East Jerusalem are the leaders in the whole district; I could easily put them in the center of Tel Aviv."

According to Frost, the health quality indices in East Jerusalem rose from a grade of 74 in 2009 to 87 today. That is the same grade the clinics in West Jerusalem receive, and just one point below the national average of Clalit clinics.

4. ID cards

... Interior Ministry data show that several hundred Palestinians from East Jerusalem received Israeli citizenship in each of the past few years. Lawyers who are involved in this process say the queue of applicants is getting longer all the time.

"The shame barrier has fallen," says attorney Amnon Mazar, who specializes in applications for citizenship. "People have reached the conclusion that the PA will not be their salvation and that Israel is a cornucopia. So they do it for their personal benefit. People who obtain Israeli citizenship are no longer necessarily considered traitors to their nation. It's the trend. They don't feel they have anything to be ashamed of."

The fall of the shame barrier was also discernible in a survey conducted among East Jerusalem residents by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy − an independent think tank − last January. The results were dramatic. One question was, "In the event of a permanent two-state solution, which state would you prefer to live in?" No fewer than 35 percent of the respondents chose Israel, 30 percent opted for Palestine and 35 percent refused to answer.

"It was a surprise," admits Dr. David Pollock, who conducted the survey. "We thought people would not want to say or admit it, but they did. You can see from the large number of people who declined to answer that it is a highly sensitive issue. So I would say that these figures are the minimum." 

 

Ha'aretz, being Ha'aretz, quotes Meretz politicians about how it is awful that Jerusalem is being united, which for some bizarre reason they claim kills the two-state solution.

(h/t Anne, Yoel)

 

Top 10 ergste beslissingen VN van 2012

 
De record van de Verenigde Naties is voor verbetering vatbaar.
Zie ook:
 
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Top 10 Worst U.N. Decisions of 2012

http://www.unwatch.org/cms.asp?id=3688530&campaign_id=63111

Compiled by U.N. Watch

 

1. Electing genocidal Sudan to ECOSOC, a top U.N. council overseeing human rights bodies.

 

2. Adopting Cuba’s “Right to Peace” resolution, which endorsed terrorism, at the same time as the Castro regime was backing Assad’s murderous Syrian forces.

 

3. Keeping Richard Falk as U.N. investigator of “Israel’s violations,” even after he was removed from Human Rights Watch in wake of protests over his support for Hamas, 9/11 conspiracy theories and promotion of antisemitism.

 

4. Praising the Qaddafi regime's human rights record.

 

5. Electing the Venezuelan dictatorship of Hugo Chavez to the U.N. Human Rights Council.

 

6. Adopting 22 resolutions attacking Israel in the U.N. General Assembly -- compared to 4 on the rest of the world combined.

 

7. Adopting 0 U.N. resolutions for victims of systematic human rights abuse in China, Pakistan, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Zimbabwe, and many other non-democracies.

 

8. Appointing a top official to the U.N. Human Rights Council who is a hero to Holocaust deniers and defends Iranian tyrant Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s “right to nuclear energy.”

 

9. Celebrating a new “State of Palestine” days after Palestinians in Gaza committed armed aggression by attacking Israel with hundreds of rockets, and while the PA fails to exercise effective control over any part of Gaza or in much of the West Bank.

 

10. Deciding to keep Syria’s Assad regime as a full member on UNESCO’s human rights committee.

 

Ongemakkelijke waarheden van de Palestijnse Autoriteit

 

De kritische Arabische journalist Khaled Abu Toameh somt hieronder wat ongemakkelijke waarheden over de Palestijnen en vooral hun leiderschap op. Voor sommigen klinkt dit wellicht bekend, maar de Westerse media negeren deze zaken grotendeels omdat ze niet passen in het beeld van een machteloos en onderdrukt volk dat voor zijn onafhankelijkheid strijdt tegen de Israelische onderdrukker.

These are only some of the inconvenient truths that the Palestinian Authority does not want the outside world to know. Palestinian journalists often avoid reporting about such issues out of concern for their safety or for "ideological" reasons. These journalists have been taught that it is forbidden to hang out the dirty laundry.

Western journalists, funders and decision-makers who deal with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict need to know that there are many truths being completely ignored or hidden from their eyes and ears.

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The Palestinian Authority's Inconvenient Truths

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3526/palestinian-authority-inconvenient-truths

by Khaled Abu Toameh
January 3, 2013 at 5:00 am

Western journalists, funders and decision-makers need to know that there are many truths being hidden from their eyes and ears.

The truth sometimes hurts; that is why the Palestinian Authority has been working hard to prevent the outside world from hearing about many occurrences that reflect negatively on its leaders or people.

In recent years, the Palestinian Authority leadership, often with the help of the mainstream media in the US and EU, has been successful in its effort to divert all attention only toward Israel.

Following are examples of some of the inconvenient truths that the Palestinian leadership in the West Bank do not want others to know about:

- Over 100 senior PLO and Fatah officials hold Israeli-issued VIP cards that grant them various privileges denied to most Palestinians. Among these privileges is the freedom to enter Israel and travel abroad at any time they wish. This privileging has existed since the signing of the Oslo Accords between Israel and the PLO in 1993.

- Out of the 600 Christians from the Gaza Strip who arrived in the West Bank in the past two weeks to celebrate Christmas, dozens have asked to move to Israel because they no longer feel comfortable living under the Palestinian Authority and Hamas.

- Dozens of Christian families from east Jerusalem have moved to Jewish neighborhoods in the the city because they too no longer feel comfortable living among Muslims.

- Palestinian Authority security forces in the West Bank continue to summon and arrest political opponents, journalists and bloggers who dare to criticize the Palestinian leadership.

- The Palestinian Authority government, which has been complaining about a severe financial crisis for the past few months, just cancelled outstanding electricity debts for Palestinians in the West Bank. Palestinians pay their bills to the Arab Jerusalem Electric Company, which buys electricity from the Israeli Electric Company; the Palestinians have not been paying their electricity bills and many have been stealing electricity from their Arab company.

- Tens of thousands of Palestinian Authority civil servants in the Gaza Strip receive salaries to stay at home and not work. The practice has been in effect since Hamas seized control over the Gaza Strip in 2007. According to Fatah spokesman Ahmed Assaf, the Palestinian Authority, which is funded mostly by American and European taxpayer money, spends around $120 million each month on the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

- Mahmoud Abbas's ruling Fatah faction has allocated more than one million dollars for celebrations marking the 48th anniversary of the "launching of the revolution" -- a reference to the first armed attack carried out by Fatah against Israel.

- Despite the calls for an economic boycott of Israel, more than 40,000 Palestinians have received permits to work in Israel. Moreover, another 15,000 Palestinians continue to work in Jewish settlements in spite of an official ban.

- Top PLO and Fatah officials continue to do their shopping in Israeli-owned businesses both in the West Bank and Israel. Last week, for example, a member of the PLO Executive Committee and his family were spotted shopping in Jerusalem's Malha mall. Of course, the PLO official did not forget to bring along his private driver and maid.

- The wife of a senior PLO official recently spent $20,000 for dental treatment in Tel Aviv at a time when there is no shortage of renowned Palestinian dentists in Ramallah, Bethlehem and Nablus.

These are only some of the inconvenient truths that the Palestinian Authority does not want the outside world to know. Palestinian journalists often avoid reporting about such issues out of concern for their safety or for "ideological" reasons. These journalists have been taught that it is forbidden to hang out the dirty laundry.

Western journalists, funders and decision-makers who deal with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict need to know that there are many truths being completely ignored or hidden from their eyes and ears.

 

Adviseur Morsi: Israel zal binnen 10 jaar ophouden te bestaan

 

Wanneer Israelische politici zoiets zouden zeggen over Egypte, dan stond het op de voorpagina’s van alle kranten en sprak iedereen er schande van. Opmerkingen van ex-minister Lieberman die minder vergaand waren worden jaren later nog geciteerd om zijn extremisme te benadrukken. Opmerkingen van Egyptische leiders, Hamas leiders, Iraanse leiders waarin zij zich vijandig tegenover Israel uitlaten en soms zelfs oproepen tot oorlog tegen dit land, worden doorgaans genegeerd door de media of sterk afgezwakt onderaan pagina 7 gezet.

 

Zie ook: Morsi noemt Joden in 2010 apen en zwijnen en roept op tot oorlog. 

 

RP

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Israel will cease to exist within the decade, adviser to Egyptian president predicts

Essam al-Erian says all those who occupied Palestine ‘will have to return to their homelands,’ including Egypt

 

  January 1, 2013, 12:54 pm 25

 

A senior Egyptian official who also serves as an adviser to President Mohammed Morsi on Tuesday expressed the opinion that Israel would not be around in 10 years.

The remark by Essam al-Erian, the deputy head of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party, was an attempt to explain a previous statement to the effect that Jews who once lived in Egypt should return to their home country and leave Israel to the Palestinians.

“There are people in Palestine who occupied it, and those occupiers have prior homelands,” Erian wrote on his Facebook page. The quotes were cited by the London-based pan-Arab daily A-Sharq Al-Awsat.

Israel, he claimed would cease to exist within the next decade.

“There won’t be a thing called Israel anymore; only Palestine, and it’ll contain Jews, Muslims, Christians and Druze, and all of the people who lived there to begin with,” he said. “Anyone who wants to stay will stay as a Palestinian citizen.”

Thus, he explained, “all of those who occupied it” — including Jewish former residents of Egypt – “will have to return to their homelands.”

On Sunday, during a television interview,Erian said that “Jews [in Israel] of Egyptian origin should refuse to live under a brutal, bloody and racist occupation stained with war crimes against humanity.”      
He also questioned why former Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser expelled the Jews from Egypt in the first place.

The office of the Egyptian president and the ruling Muslim Brotherhood party attempted to distance themselves from the comments, apparently not due to Erian’s implication that Israel has no right to exist, but rather due to the implication that the tens of thousands of Jews who were expelled from Egypt in the wake of Israel’s establishment would be welcome in their country of birth.

“Erian’s statements don’t represent the stance of the presidency, and he isn’t an official spokesman of the president’s office,” the president’s statement said.

“The Jews of Egypt are criminals who deserve to be punished for what they’ve done to Egypt and the Palestinians,” said Muslim Brotherhood spokesman Mahmoud Ghozlan.

JTA contributed to this report.

 

Morsi noemt Joden in 2010 apen en zwijnen en roept op tot oorlog

 

Morsi riep in 2010 op tot oorlog tegen Israel en noemde onderhandelingen tijdverspilling:

Therefore, these negotiations must stop once and for all. Everybody must turn to the support of the resistance, which is the option chosen by the Palestinians and by us all – the Arabs and the Muslims, Palestinians and others. We must all realize that resistance is the only way to liberate the land of Palestine. 

No reasonable person can expect any progress on this track. Either [you accept] the Zionists and everything they want, or else it is war. This is what these occupiers of the land of Palestine know – these blood-suckers, who attack the Palestinians, these warmongers, the descendants of apes and pigs. 

The Zionists have no right to the land of Palestine. There is no place for them on the land of Palestine. What they took before 1947-8 constitutes plundering, and what they are doing now is a continuation of this plundering. By no means do we recognize their Green Line. The land of Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, not to the Zionists. 

Deze man is nu de machtigste man van Egypte, en wordt door ‘verlichte’ commentatoren vaak als pragmatisch neergezet. Wat hij zegt staat letterlijk in het handvest van Hamas, de gewapende Palestijnse tak van de Moslim Broederschap. Ook Hamas wordt vaak als relatief pragmatisch neergezet. Dit soort uitspraken, ook vaak gedaan door Hamas leiders, halen onze media dan ook zeer zelden. De kans dat Morsi in nog geen drie jaar tijd fundamenteel anders over Israel en de Joden is gaan denken lijkt me erg klein. Is het niet beter dat we weten wat er speelt en wat de ideologie en achtergrond is van belangrijke Arabische leiders, dan vast te houden aan de idee dat het allemaal wel meevalt? 

 

RP

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Morsi in 2010: Zionists are "Descendants of Apes and Pigs"

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.nl/2013/01/morsi-in-2010-zionists-are-descendants.html

Guest post by Challah Hu Akbar, aka Challah & CHA

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CHALLAH @ MEMRI

Mohamed Morsi: These futile [Israeli-Palestinian] negotiations are a waste of time and opportunities. The Zionists buy time and gain more opportunities, as the Palestinians, the Arabs, and the Muslims lose time and opportunities, and they get nothing out of it. We can see how this dream has dissipated. This dream has always been an illusion. Yet some Palestinians, who erroneously believe that their enemies might give them something... This [Palestinian] Authority was created by the Zionist and American enemies for the sole purpose of opposing the will of the Palestinian people and its interests. 

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No reasonable person can expect any progress on this track. Either [you accept] the Zionists and everything they want, or else it is war. This is what these occupiers of the land of Palestine know – these blood-suckers, who attack the Palestinians, these warmongers, the descendants of apes and pigs. 

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We should employ all forms of resistance against them. There should be military resistance within the land of Palestine against those criminal Zionists, who attack Palestine and the Palestinians. There should also be political resistance and economic resistance through a boycott, as well as by supporting the resistance fighters. This should be the practice of the Muslims and the Arabs outside Palestine. They should support the resistance fighters and besiege the Zionist wherever they are. None of the Arab or Muslim peoples and regimes should have dealings with them. Pressure should be exerted upon them. They must not be given any opportunity, and must not stand on any Arab or Islamic land. They must be driven out of our countries. 

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Therefore, these negotiations must stop once and for all. Everybody must turn to the support of the resistance, which is the option chosen by the Palestinians and by us all – the Arabs and the Muslims, Palestinians and others. We must all realize that resistance is the only way to liberate the land of Palestine. 

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Al-Quds TV (Lebanon) March 20, 2010, via the Internet 

The Zionists have no right to the land of Palestine. There is no place for them on the land of Palestine. What they took before 1947-8 constitutes plundering, and what they are doing now is a continuation of this plundering. By no means do we recognize their Green Line. The land of Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, not to the Zionists. 

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We must confront this Zionist entity. All ties of all kinds must be severed with this plundering criminal entity, which is supported by America and its weapons, as well as by its own nuclear weapons, the existence of which is well known. It will bring about their own destruction. The peoples must boycott this entity and avoid normalization of relations with it. All products from countries supporting this entity – from the U.S. and others – must be boycotted. 

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We want a country for the Palestinians on the entire land of Palestine, on the basis of [Palestinian] citizenship. All the talk about a two-state solution and about peace is nothing but an illusion, which the Arabs have been chasing for a long time now. They will not get from the Zionists anything but this illusion. 

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They have been fanning the flames of civil strife wherever they were throughout history. They are hostile by nature. 

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The Zionists understood nothing but the language of force. 

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